[02:09:07] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; hello. ever since i was a wee lad in the early 90s, i had this wild fantasy of making a point and click adventure game in the style of ultima 7. a few days ago i finished chapter 1. it is a free game , GPL but with restricted art/music, so I hope you will not consider this a commercial spam. but if anyone is interested in seeing a hand-painted high res game with a similar sort of vibe, let me know and i'll give the link. <BR>
[02:09:30] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; also, i grew to appreciate your effort in writing the code, even having just written the very simplified version of the U7 UI<BR>
[02:09:55] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; i don't even overlap/pack objects inside containers, i just use a grid like Underworld did<BR>
[02:10:05] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; and its still damn hard to make sure everything works<BR>
[02:12:27] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; but i had a lot of friends bang on the game to make sure you can't put a bag inside of itself, and to make sure you can't drag a gump into a bag as an item (which was a bug at one point!)))<BR>
[02:14:00] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; dragging people into bags etc. object orientation is so fun<BR>
[02:17:12] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; a couple of screenshots. you can see the GUMPs http://imgur.com/a/CvKmW <BR>
[02:50:51] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">sh4rm4</font>&gt; my 50c: nice venture; however there's not much point in it if it's non-free (and the graphics dont look good enough to make me wanna pay for it)<BR>
[02:51:32] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">sh4rm4</font>&gt; also i generally dont like pre-rendered hi-res stuff<BR>
[02:51:57] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">sh4rm4</font>&gt; much of the charme of U7 is low-res and restriction to a 256 color palette<BR>
[03:10:52] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; id like to release the graphics as CC-BY-SA at some point, but ok point taken<BR>
[03:11:08] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; unless that's not what you meant by "nonfree"<BR>
[03:11:48] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; anyway i am expecting the game to flop. i'm doing an action game next.<BR>
[03:11:55] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; i won't bother you about that, though. <BR>
[03:11:58] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; thanks for your thoughts. <BR>
[03:12:30] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; i will admit i am not a professional quality artist. i just.... went ahead and did it.<BR>
[03:19:18] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">dto</font>&gt; i learned a lot about programming, so i think it was well worth it, and a lot of fun besides<BR>
[09:08:46] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">Lightkey</font>&gt; eh, I saw a game representation by someone I know at Devmania last year and felt sorry for him, did not understand why anyone else would be interested as it looked just like dto's game<BR>
[09:09:04] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">Lightkey</font>&gt; then he got someone to redo the graphics: http://www.das-tal-game.com/home<BR>
[09:09:50] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">Lightkey</font>&gt; oh well, dto's gone<BR>