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[10:16:54] <Servus> Sweet Jesus no! Stop talking to me! I can't take it anymore! This incessant pestering and pelting of words is just driving me _barmy_! Please... stop... talking!
[11:43:02] <Colourless> hi
[11:48:20] <Darke> Hi!
[11:57:55] <wjp> hi
[12:10:56] <Darke> Hi!
[12:11:06] <Colourless> Hi
[13:36:07] <jerbear> hi
[14:21:30] <Fingolfin> yo
[14:24:47] <jerbear> ahoy
[14:32:54] --- Darke is now known as DarkeAFK
[15:00:54] --- Cless is now known as Colourless
[15:20:35] <wjp> funny, somebody seems to thing that pathfinding is easier if you start at the destination and find a path to the start :-)
[15:20:40] <wjp> s/thing/think/
[15:20:50] <wjp> (pathfinding thread on forum)
[15:39:13] <Colourless> wjp: bidirectional searches have their good points, and bad points :-)
[15:39:53] <Colourless> they will normally find the path faster, but it often wont be optimal
[15:40:19] <wjp> yeah, I know (vaguely) the theory :-)
[15:41:15] <Colourless> they incidently will also tend to have a path that is more in a straight line from start to end, when they are obstructions in the way
[15:43:07] <wjp> using which search strategy?
[15:43:17] <wjp> (for each of the 'ends')
[15:44:02] <Colourless> yeah, from both ends
[15:44:33] <wjp> but which strategy for each end?
[15:44:34] <wjp> A*?
[15:45:14] <Colourless> A* may not work correctly when searching from both ends
[15:46:07] <Colourless> there is a chance with A* that the 2 paths may never meet till one of them has actually made it to it's 'destination
[15:46:36] <wjp> hm, yes, you want to do a more thorough search, I guess
[15:47:19] <Colourless> you just need to have an obstruction that is at an angle to the direction from start to dest and the 2 A* paths may never meet
[15:47:49] <Colourless> each path will end up going round the other sides of the obstruction
[15:47:58] * wjp nods
[16:27:03] --- Cless is now known as Colourless
[21:49:40] <rixa> Hmm. I got a "fish", from the gwani I think. It's in my backpack, appears useless and is "TOO HEAVY" to move out from there. Bug?
[21:50:33] <wjp> aaah... so that's where that fish comes from
[21:50:48] <wjp> yes, bug. Not sure if it's from the original or from exult, though
[21:50:59] <rixa> at least I recall answering yes to a gwani who asked if I want a fish.
[21:51:03] <wjp> hmm... right... the gwani could give you dried fish or something
[21:51:30] <rixa> Suppose I need to find a spare backpack :)
[21:51:47] <wjp> or turn hack-mover on to remove the fish
[21:53:10] <rixa> I guess that would do as well.
[22:02:09] <wjp> I should go to bed; g'night
[22:02:26] <rixa> me too.