[11:57:38] <FONT COLOR="#008080">---</FONT> <font color="#616161">sbx|afk is now known as sbx</font><BR>
[15:59:16] &lt;<font color="#B0B0B0">Colourless</font>&gt; hi<BR>
[16:16:54] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">sbx</font>&gt; hello<BR>
[16:38:22] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; hi Ryan<BR>
[21:03:14] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; hi Fingolfin <BR>
[21:03:38] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; hiya<BR>
[21:03:48] * <font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font> just got back from a customer who had a problem with the computer not starting properly anymore...<BR>
[21:04:00] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; it's sad when you have to tell somebody that their HD is dead :-/<BR>
[21:04:25] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; really strange thing, too: system didn't boot up. customer tried 30-40 times today, and eventually it came up, and run from 15:00 till 20:00<BR>
[21:04:26] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; ...<BR>
[21:04:53] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; hm, temperature related?<BR>
[21:05:25] * <font color="#800080">wjp</font> had a near-dead HD once that would run for half an hour or so if you let it cool down enough<BR>
[21:05:35] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; nope<BR>
[21:05:40] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; the motor isn't spinning at all.<BR>
[21:05:47] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; my guess is that the driver electronic is broken<BR>
[21:06:01] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; essentially, the drive needs a "boost" to start spinning (every motor needs that)<BR>
[21:06:27] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; if the electronic which is responsible for that is broken, the HD can't start to spin. If, however, by miracle it starts spinning, it will run just fine like normal<BR>
[21:06:31] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; hm, so the data is most likely still intact but getting to it is a bit of a problem?<BR>
[21:06:35] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; exactly<BR>
[21:06:44] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; a pity I can't foretell the future...<BR>
[21:07:01] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; if I were able to to do that, I would have brought an external USB HD, plugged it in, copied the data...<BR>
[21:07:44] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; instead of going there, after getting a report which said "We forgot a CD in the drive; when we turned on the machine, it didn't want to start from the HD anymore", which lead me to believe it was a simple problem... so we turned off the machine so I could see the error message...<BR>
[21:07:44] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; &lt;sigh&gt;<BR>
[21:07:54] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; afterwards, you always know better, right? :-)<BR>
[21:08:25] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; yeah...<BR>
[21:10:26] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; I've heard some stories about replacing controller boards on HDs, but I have no idea how easy it is to get a new controller<BR>
[21:32:23] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; http://www.overclockers.com/tips1035/<BR>
[21:38:51] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; hm, I wouldn't feel comfortable at all exposing the platters/heads themselves<BR>
[22:24:20] &lt;<font color="#FF6600">Fingolfin</font>&gt; neither would I :-) just thought it's an interesting read<BR>
[22:27:09] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; it is :-)<BR>
[23:02:16] &lt;<font color="#800080">wjp</font>&gt; I should go too; 'night<BR>
[23:02:32] &lt;<font color="#0000C0">Baastuul</font>&gt; bai<BR>