[12:01:12] Marzo: Dominus: I found a way to "fix" Exult and ES in Windows so that they print output to console when available, or to the redirected files if not (say, because they were started from Windows Explorer)
[12:01:32] Marzo: However, a console briefly flashes when they are started on the latter case
[12:01:58] Dominus: except for the console flash, that sounds useful
[12:02:03] Dominus: very useful
[12:02:13] Dominus: (though mostly developer useful :))
[12:02:22] Marzo: I have another fix, but only the msys/msys2 shells work
[12:02:29] Marzo: The stock cmd.exe does not
[12:03:07] Marzo: Even for that case, I can have output on the console, but it appears to hang when the program exits
[12:03:36] Marzo: Though only appears, because Exult/ES have already finished as far as the console is concerned
[12:03:43] Marzo: Or I can filter out cmd.exe
[12:03:56] Marzo: And have it redirect output as well
[12:04:10] Marzo: So, 3 basic paths, each with a drawback
[12:04:19] Marzo: And I don't know which one I prefer
[12:04:38] Lightkey: https://scummvm.org/news/20040401 guys, it's getting close, CABAL has achieved another goal with a newly added Frotz-based module for ScummVM, not many left on the list, Exult is one of them
[12:06:56] Marzo: Eh, I will redirect output from Explorer and cmd.exe, and print it on the terminal if msys/msys2 terminal
[12:07:13] Marzo: I don't like the terminal flash
[12:07:48] Marzo: And it makes more sense to have the output available in msys/msys2 terminals because it means you are likely trying to do development
[12:08:22] Marzo: And you won't want to search the bowels of C:\Users\user:\AppData\Local\Exult to find the logs
[12:36:00] Dominus: it's just one command away :)
[12:36:25] Dominus: shell:Local AppData\Exult
[12:36:43] Dominus: works in all supported Windows OS
[12:44:27] Marzo: Huh, I didn't know that
[12:44:58] Dominus: more likely forgot it :)
[12:45:12] Marzo: No, I don't think I ever knew this one
[12:45:21] Dominus: back then when you did the major work on the default paths, we talked about it
[12:45:40] Marzo: Maybe
[12:45:41] Dominus: and since then I have it in the documentation :)
[12:46:05] Marzo: Could be
[12:46:24] Marzo: After all, I have basically been away from Windows since 2007 or so
[12:46:37] Dominus: I am often surprised when rereading parts of the logs what I knew and wrote :)
[12:46:53] Dominus: and yes, I'm away since then, too :)
[12:47:03] Dominus: (maybe 2009, though)