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hey all, I've uploaded the savegames. I put 3 in there: when I first arrive at the temple of discipline, so you can see the usecode function are intact, when Petra just joined me, proof I got all the pre-requisites done, and just prior to pressing the button for body switch. On a side note, I have i...

I talked with her and picked the option 'switch bodies' . After confirming that i promised it would be safe, she steps on the platform. I wait and wait, and then press the button. I wait and wait again, not moving at all, and still nothing. Then I step on the platform and still wait. Nothing at all....

hey all, replaying SI in full. Same bug here. Talked with automatons in temple, saw vision, read all books in temple, got petra with me and stepped on acid. Pressing the button didn't work either. Any suggestions? I have a samegame handy. Also my work has killed my access to the forum! Argh! Replies...

while we're on the topic of revision control, I've discovered Fossil ( http://www.fossil-scm.org/ ). I'm thoroughly enthralled with it. Built-in wiki, RSS, bug-tracking, easiest branching and merging I've seen so far. I've recommended it at my work, and we're now using it on more and more internal p...

My question is: where did he got his inspiration for the magic system in Ultima? Each version of Ultima is slightly different that the other when it comes to magic. In one case, all you need is having runes and uttering the spell in a certain order (à la Ultima Underworld). In another, you need the ...

I'm having trouble running smooth on a newer machine. Compiling works fine, but I get: $ ./smooth -c ~/u6test.txt -i ~/ultima6.bmp -o ultima6.bmp *** glibc detected *** ./smooth: invalid fastbin entry (free): 0x08407370 *** Segmentation fault (core dumped) not too sure what's going on here... Artaxe...

I don't know what to say, it seems like the same bug you experienced with mockup. I have to do some testing on my side to see whether Linux suffers the same issues.

thx
Artaxerxes

It disturbingly sounds like the same issue as you had with mockup. Are there any stdout.txt or stderr.txt files in the directory that get refreshed every time you run the command? If so, could you post their content here?

thx
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Dominus:
thanks for the offer. Sure, you can push it whenever you want. config.txt should be a good name for it.

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Hi, here is a sample config file, the one used to convert rough.bmp into smooth.bmp as seen in http://exult.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/exult/exult/trunk/mapedit/tools/smooth/ # Config file for smooth # each section starts with [pluginname] # libsmooth_pluginname.so is consequently loaded # comments ...

putting semicolons in front of each line effectively commented those lines, so it's normal it did nothing!

As for using mockup for what you described, I think it's better to stick to the Unix motto: do one thing but do it well (and play well with others).

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agentorangeguy wrote: >Say my image was "test.bmp" and my mapping > file was "test.txt". How would I use smooth.exe? what would > be a typical command line? It's quite easy: smooth.exe -i test.bmp -c test.txt -o result.bmp Now, what you must remember is that you need to use smoot...

Agentorangeguy:

Kirben updated the Windows tools. Would you mind giving them a shot?

thx
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I think I know what's happening. I've emailed Kirben about it. The issue is with a potential buffer overflow. Kirben extended the buffer but it was left uninitialized. I've sent him a patch but he only knows how to prepare the windows binaries. And to answer your question, a 256-colour BMP or (index...

Actually you are. It's even the first colour defined in the image you sent me.

Here are the colour used in your image:
000000
00a2e8
b97a57
b5e61d
fff200

By the way, you _named_ it image.bmp but in reality it's an indexed PNG (but this is unrelated to your issue).

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Scythifuge: there is a question of scaling to it match the scale of U7. For instance, how much of a chunk will be used for the dirtpath: the whole thing, half of it, or only a sliver. That will have an impact on the map. Having right now a quick glance at the map, I don't think you would be able to ...

will do
thx Dom

I have just tried on a windows machine (XP Pro). First off, the tool died because I didn't have SDL.dll around. That was easy to fix, but I did get a popup to tell me so, something that agentorangeguy didn't get. Once SDL.dll acquired, I ran the command again: C:>temp_folder>mockup.exe image.bmp map...

ok, I've received and converted it successfully. What was the output you got when running the program? For me, I had: >mockup agentorange.bmp agentorange.txt The image file uses 5 colours Colour map is successfully loaded from agentorange.txt Done! > And in that directory, I have now a u7map file re...

agentorangeguy: can you email me your map? I want to test it here.

My address is:
domain user = artaxerxes2
domain name = iname.com

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You must run the program from the command line. So if your mockup.exe, image.bmp and mapping.txt are found in "c:\Documents and Settings\agentorange\games\exult\tools\", do the following: Start->All Programs->Accessories->Command Prompt This will get you a command line. Regardless of the d...

Besides this, I'm not really sure how to use the other programs to try to improve the mapping. I'll try to answer that one. First with the plugin [random]. Suppose you want a forest in your map. If you picked a colour (say #0000FF) to represent the forest and you picked a chunk# of a forest, then e...

Hi, I wrote the program, so I'll do my best to answer you. mockup converts an image into a u7map. To convert it, it associates a pixel colour to a u7chunk and then creates a u7map "replacing" each pixel of your image by that u7chunk. "replacing" in quotes since it's not that simp...

something to keep in mind as well, how do you handle the carrying of a skiff which was *essential* in U6 to explore all areas and possibly to complete the game. Same question about the balloon.

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New version of Tisane (0.8.6) available on http://si-french.sf.net/tisane.php ChangeLog: * Highlight spaces in front of and at the end of original text. It makes it easier to see and remember to put spaces when they are invisible but needed. (Thanks to Thomaz Rodrigues Botelho for the suggestion) * ...

like I said, it depends on having the option to use usecode.txt and I believe Marzo was mentioning it but was busy at the moment.

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Dominus wrote:
>
"Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft" (the official longest German word)

Whoa, Dominus, you have no idea the depth of the Wiki trail that word led me on!

obligatory http://xkcd.com/214/

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Hey Rodrigo,

I can't provide an answer for this, however, for the benefit of the other Exult Devs, Tisane is a web interface to translate U7, and it exports an usecode.txt in the format similar to expack text.

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I don't recall altering initgame.dat at all. TEXT.FLX and USECODE are the only place where people's name need to be changed, AFAICT.

We didn't translate the introduction, so I can't speak for that.

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L@Zar0 wrote:
> To make the names descriptibles, in singular and plural, I've
> thought in use this:
>
> //moneda de oro/monedas de oro
> //pepita de oro/pepitas de oro

FWIW, that's precisely the way it's done in many description for the French version of BG and SI.

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alagner wrote:
>
> But - just guessing - does 'gelæd' mean gold?

'gelæd' is the word that became 'lead', as in 'do not lead us into temptation'. You recognize the 'lead' in 'gelæd', and the 'ge' typically used in germanic languages.

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Cute. Let's confuse even more our OP with ancient english: ;-) Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum, Si þin nama gehalgod. To becume þin rice, gewurþe ðin willa, on eorðan swa swa on heofonum. Urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg, and forgyf us ure gyltas, swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum. And ne ge...

I tell thee, thou have no reason to fear. It's easy!

"Thee" is to "thou" what "me" is to "I".

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MeddlingMonk wrote: > > 'thou' is both old and highly formal due to a > misunderstanding of why it is used to address God in older > English translations of the Bible (King > James/Geneva/Bishops/Coverdale/etc.). It's actually the other way around. If you speak French or Spanish, you will more easil...

New version of Tisane (0.8.5) available on http://si-french.sf.net/tisane.php ChangeLog: * Now supports prev/next function from the edit page. * Double-click on item that is highlighted by virtue of being in the Compendium so that it is automatically added to the translated side in its translated fo...

The Exult team is first working on a new release, then they will add this function as far as I know.

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a little bug report:

in order to start translating, it is necessary to have at least one entry in the compendium. I will fix this bug in the next release.

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To all those interested in translation, I've revamped Tisane, the web interface for translating Ultima 7 (part I and II). System requirements: a webserver with PHP 5 and SQLite 3, original usecode files from either BG, SI, FoV or SS. You can see screenshots and download it on http://si-french.sf.net...

Marzo, I'm virtually done with Tisane. All I have to do is the help page and the export function. So, if I understand correctly, the format would be looking like (for SI): %%section usecode 0096,0000:@The sails must be furled before the planks are raised.@ 0096,0039:@I believe the gangplank is block...

@Dominus: wil do. @all: In the meantime, I've successfully parsed the usecode (function name + data) and populated the DB, straight from PHP. It's fast: about 2.22s to do it all on my machine. Not much is left to do, beside cleaning up the pages on which the translation happen. I also have to write ...

I am making progress with Tisane. I've reworked the installer, so that it will create the (sqlite) DB for you, parse the usecode file found in the local directory to auto-populate the database, etc. It'll looking really good, with very few requirements, actually only one: sqlite through PDO (and tha...

Not too much, I hope. I am looking into something like it now, in fact. Awesome! There are many examples: in the svn trunk, there is data/exultmsg.txt, data/exultmsg_de.txt, exultmsg_fr.txt; and all the txt files in data/bg and data/si. That's why I couldn't see it. data/exultmsg.txt is not followi...

Marzo, what would it take to get Exult to look for a translation file and to use this std::map as you mention?

Also, I looked for a file format description for textmsg and couldn't find one. Could you give an example of a file using that format?

thx

Artaxerxes

The whole issue revolves around performance. When exult is executing usecode, it needs to have access to the data fast and possibly even pre-fetch and cache it. That's why I mentioned flex files since Exult can not only read them, but they use an index to make lookups fast. But I just tested creatin...

that's not an issue Rodrigo and I can take care of that.

The only problem I'm having right now is size. Creating a flx file with index like '04010000' causes the creation of file several hundred of megabyte big, even though it's mostly empty.

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using patched fonts is easy. Exult already supports that. If there is a fonts.vga in the patch directory, Exult will use it. But it's true that in this case, you couldn't have say, a French and a Russian version together. You would have to separate them. So what if you put everything (fonts.vga, tex...

So here is an idea: through a configuration entry, get Exult to load a file, crafted by translators in the format described earlier, so that whenever an access to the "data" part of a usecode function is made, it uses that file instead of usecode. The difficulties I suppute are: 1) slow to...

a couple of points: 1) usecode is made up of a collection of functions, and each function points to its own strings, as if it was namespaced. So there are pretty much as many functions with offset "0000" as there are functions where text data is involved. Following your idea, you would nee...

I see, so where Exult would see "say phrase at offset 0x23F3 for function 0x2D31" it would take a file in "translation/fr-fr/2D31.flx" and grab the text at index "23F3". That would work for me.

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I think it's time for a proper translation tool. If I can get help with the request posted in the other thread, I'll finish the code so anyone can translate U7 in their language easily using Tisane. To be honest, with the new baby, work and stuff, I haven't following super closely the latest advance...

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