SI problem ethicality batlin

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djvonfunkin
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SI problem ethicality batlin

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Ive searched the forum (for all dates too :) and have found nothing on my problem. This may be something so incredibly simple Ill kick myself (like the square buttons in SI that blend into the damn wall) or some crazy bug I dunno. OK, I've killed Batlin and am now at the point where I need to get the buckets of water from the temples in SI. I have gotten Gwenno to not be a raving vampire anymore. In anycase, the problem is:

In the third test in the temple of ethicality, a fake batlin is attacking the avatar by throwing fireballs. Now I've tried standing there, running around, attacking batlin (for 10 min, only getting cryptic crys from batlin). I cannot hurt batlin it seems, and he does no damage whatsoever to me with his cute little fireballs. I've looked at walkthroughs, and obviously this must be a short simple part of the game as all they say is: do not yield to batlin. I've tried everything but i wont die, batlin wont die, i cant even yield to him to begin with! Any help would be appreciated.

This is the newest snapshot in XP with a M-audio revolution 7.1 and a geforce2 mx. This is not something easily cheated out of or I would've (i did cheat when i had to use the hound to sniff the girls sword because umm i have no idea waht happened to her sword, i left it somewhere after i found it the first time. so i teleported into shaminos castle- i dont think this would have any bearing on my current situation but hey who knows.
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by Colourless »

Try removing all your armour if you have any on. Also remove any items from your hand slots if you are holding anything.

Similar problems have been seen before.
djvonfunkin
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by djvonfunkin »

Tried that still not working. The avatar is holding a gem and money from the 2nd ethicality test when i fight batlin. in his backpack is a gold bar. this is all he wears.
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Post by Dino (can't log in) »

As far as I know, you should have dropped the valuables on the altar when you were in a long corridor at the end of which was a button.
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by Achile Dragon »

Remove god mode( Alt+g) should help if you are with it

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djvonfunkin
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by djvonfunkin »

I didnt have god mode on as ive never had to use it. he does no damage with or without it on. i did drop the money on the pedestal, but it reappeared in my inventory (bug?) after i got transported back to the automoton. the same thing happened after i loaded and old savegame and went and did the tests again.

so what exactly is supposed to happen. is batlin supposed to be doing damage to me? is he supposed to almost kill me? am i supposed to kill him?

heres a link to the savegame file to see if anyone can make sense of this and/or beat it for me.

http://home.mchsi.com/~rauj/exult04si.sav
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He's supposed to beat you. Then he offers you the chance the yield.
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Post by Dominus »

For some reason the Avatar has the "tremor" flag set. Either use Exult Studio to change the flags of your avatar or use the following keystrokes:
F2 (cheat menu opens) -> n (npc tool)-> 0 (Avatar's npc#)->n (npc flags)
-> * (advanced flags) -> 12 (tremor flag)-> u (unset flag) -> x (a couple of times until you are out of the cheat menu).
Now your Avatar can be hurt and the sequence runs through.
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djvonfunkin
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by djvonfunkin »

THANKS that was the problem, although i have no idea what a tremor fag is or why it was set.
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Re: SI problem ethicality batlin

Post by artaxerxes »

maybe an overabusing of alcohol could cause that! It is called "Delirium Tremens"! :-)

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