Create Automaton

[Sentri]

Hi - whenever I cast the Create Automaton spell, it seems to fizzle. I am running Exult 1.1 beta 2. I never used the spell before, so I am not sure if I am just casting it wrong. I lay the broken Automaton body down on the ground, cast Create Automaton, and select the body. My avatar is 10th level, and he has the ring of reagents.

It says in the spell description that you have to cast Translate to understand, so I did that before as well.

However, whatever I seem to do, the spell fails, and the black cloud appears with that fizzle sound.

[Dominus]

do you have enough mana?

[MV]

It doesn't work on the "gold" automatons.

[Sentri]

I do have enough mana, and I was just trying them on the silver automatons (like the one in Torrissio's house or the ones at the entrance to Spinebreaker.

Oddly enough, I was able to get the spell Create Automaton to work in certain areas, but it would create an NPC pirate instead. Most places the spell failed. And then, just tonight, I was able to get the spell to work in one of the Temples. So I am not sure what was causing it.

I have another problem - I have 5 people in my party, avatar included:

Avatar
Petra
Iolo
Dupre
Shamino

and I want to get Boydon to re-join, but he is telling me it is too crowded in my party, but I thought the max was 6. I had to ask Boydon to re-join actually so that I could get Dupre to re-join. I guess I could ask Petra to leave, but I just wanted to know if there was anything I could try to get the game to recognize that there are only 5 people in my party?

Thanks.

[drcode]

I think the max is 8. If you like, could you submit a bug report with your savegame? I recently fixed a party bug, and it sounds like you've found another one.

[Soule]

In the original Serpent Isle, the max is 5.
I know this because my party was Avatar + 3 companions + Boydon,
After the Banes, I substituted the companions with Wilfred, Petra, and an automaton.

In Black Gate, the max is 8.

[MV]

I just had a quick look and yea, it seems that you can't use it on automatons that are already destroyed. I found that if you kill one, you can use the spell on it just fine.

[Andrea B Previtera]

In the original Black Gate, I can clearly remembered that some NPC would point out "I like small crowds" and didn't join if you had a party of five, while other ones would join anyway. Sentri, for example, liked the "small crowd". Am I wrong? I remember I had to pick up party members in a certain order to build up a party of eight...

[Soule]

Yep, I remember Sentri, Julia, Katrina had such 'small' crowds habit. Iolo, Shamino, Spark, Dupre will join as long as it is not the '8' limit.
I can't remember about Jaana and Tseramed though.

[Dominus]

about the automatons, go to the lab of what's-his-name in moonshade and try it with the broken automatons there. If it doesn't work with them then there is probably something wrong...

[MV]

Yea, I tried the lab ones. I should have made that specific when I said "already destroyed" automatons.

If you kill the one that's walking around his house, then you can revive it just fine with the spell.

As for the party in TBG, that's easy to work around. The three companions will join no matter what as long as the total size of the party is less than 8.

[Wizardry Dragon]

The lab ones work for me, and I'm on the snapshot. Maybe it got fixed? ::shrug::

~ Wizardry Dragon

[DemonKnight]

well, in my game, it works on every silver automaton, the max in serpent isle is 5, the max for black gate is 8, and jaana is a small crowd character