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[OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:45 pm
by Skutarth
I was wondering if there was any way to make new Ultima 6 games and use new graphics. I wanted to "continue" the Ultima Worlds series.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:03 pm
by wjp
Take a look at nuvie's Links page

http://nuvie.sourceforge.net/?page=links

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:25 am
by artaxerxes
talking of nuvie, the site doesn't show any news since May.

Do you guys know if things are progressing?

Artaxerxes

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:32 am
by Skutarth
You can edit the chunks and terrain with pu6e, but you can't change the art or change eggs to have a new story, etc.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:40 am
by wjp
I have nuvie's ChangeLog in http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/cvs/

There definitely is progress.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:44 am
by Dominus
Website changes are not relative to code changes.
Just look at pentagram.sf.net... Not many changes there but the code of the program has seen many improvements...

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:56 pm
by Crowley
You might also want to check out this: ire.sourceforge.net
I also wish I could make my own Worlds of Ultima. The engine in Martian Dreams seemed very versatile and flexible.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:09 am
by Skutarth
Yeah, I've been looking at IRE, but it I don't know how that would work. I'll give it a try. More suggestions would be nice.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:20 am
by Skutarth
The IRE editor doesn't work for me, so that's off the list.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:34 am
by Skutarth
Mayhaps I could contact the original makers?

Anyone have an E-mail adress?

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:03 am
by Wizardry Dragon
Nope.

Re: Nuvie - sounds like he does the same thing as I so often do - post the webpage once, and leave it to decay into oblivion as I work on code :)

pu6e's probably a good place to start for editing, worry about eggs and NPCs only after you've got the map to stick them in :)

~ Wizardry Dragon

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:07 am
by Skutarth
But that would be a total waste since I don't have my own tileset, and I might not even be able to insert NPC's and eggs ever...

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:11 am
by Wizardry Dragon
You would be, nuvie's definetly making progress. But remember, these things take time, I mean, look how long it took Exult to get to 1.0 :)

(and Nuvie doesnt have a covenient amount of basework on the games scripting to work off as far as I know, and the Exult team did)

Im pretty sure if you had one of the World of Ultima games you could switch that ones tileset for Ultima 6's (although it might completly obsucate the gameworld since the tileset is probably laid out differently - ie. weapons in a different section, etc For a similar obfuscation, try switching U7 and SI's shapes.vga and see what happens ;) )

~ Wizardry Dragon

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:13 am
by Skutarth
If I wanted to just switch everything into Ultima 6, I could just use pu6e with the martian dreams patch.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:15 am
by Wizardry Dragon
What I mean is if you have a tileset that's like the one your looking for you can switch that in :) (sorta like how I stole a lot of SI's stuff to stick into U7 for my addon)

~ Wizardry Dragon

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:21 am
by Skutarth
what do you mean? There are only three tilesets I can use. The one from Martian Dreams, the one from Savage Empire, and the one from Ultima 6! Martian Dreams is only half-way to what I need.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:31 am
by Wizardry Dragon
I dont know if there's a toolset for U6 to do it, but you could try mixing and matching with the three tilesets to get what you need.

~ Wizardry Dragon

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:32 am
by Skutarth
I won't have the right stuff...

This is a great time for someone to volenteer to make one for both sprites and tiles! It wouldn't be that hard... They are all tiles.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:33 am
by Skutarth
Actually, I meant shouldn't.

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:06 pm
by Crowley
Just out of curiosity, what are you planning to do? "Martian Dreams is only half-way to what I need." What did you mean by that?

Re: [OT] Editing Ultima 6

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:24 pm
by Skutarth
It'll take place in the future of Earth. That's the only thing I'm going to say. I have it all thought out. I even have a lot of it written.