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Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:05 pm
by Volatios Dragon
Man, is Exult awesome. I really can't get over what an AMAZING undertaking this is, and that's not just obligatory fluff before I get to the heart of what I'm really writing for: are there any plans to get the cheats fully implemented? The reason I ask is that I've hit a wall in Serpent Isle, one I actually hit before, way back in the day, but managed to completely forget about: I gave Torrissio the Philanderer's Friend by mistake, killed him to get it back, and now realize I need him alive to take care of the Banes. Ooooops. Using the existing Exult cheat functions, I can determine the location of the living Torrissio (4000, 4000) or something like that, but there seems to be no actual way to get to this place, so I guess it's a fake location stat for dead people. (Irritatingly, he's not just put in the house of the dead at the top left corner of the map...) So, basically, I need a way to teleport an NPC to a given location, which is one of the functions apparently not implemented yet in Exult. Is this on the agenda at all or are there bigger fish to fry still?
Again, I'm astounded at the quality of this work, and once absolutely everything is squared away you can bet I'm going to blow a couple years of my life building the Ultima 9 "that should have been" with ES.
Cheers,
Addison Godel (Volatios Dragon, UDIC)
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:09 pm
by Dominus
1. The house of dead does not function in the way it did in the original.
2. Once an NPC is dead it isn't found on the map anymore
3. So you can't teleport there (even if we had that function)
4. You'd need him to be resurrected...
So, I think you need to load an earlier savegame.
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:11 pm
by Dominus
oh and isn'T all you need from him the spell to make Soul Gems? That you can cheat with the Archwizard cheat.
(hmm, you might need him to set a flag so Ducio has the option to talk about the gems...)
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:07 pm
by Volatios Dragon
You definitely need him to set the flag, so the archwizard cheat (which I'd prefer to avoid using anyway) won't work. I don't have an earlier savegame, so that's out. Looks like I'm up a creek.
What I was hoping for was a cheat to set the location of the NPC. Under the NPC hacker there does seem to be an option to click the apostrophe key to teleport the NPC, but it doesn't do anything. If I could just change his coordinates from the bogus 4000 position to a real location then I'd be back in business and the last couple weeks spent on SI wouldn't be a complete waste.
(Well, some would argue that any two-week period devoted in any part large or small to re-playing a game one beat the better part of a decade ago would be a waste, but hey, they're just silly.
)
Cheers,
Addison Godel (Volatios Dragon, UDIC)
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:49 pm
by Neutronium Dragon
Is there a cheat implemented to create items? If so, you could use Archwizard and just cheat-create the needed soul gems.
Neutronium Dragon
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:33 am
by Dominus
yes, create item works.
There is no way you can change the coordinates of Torrissio. That "location" off the map doesn't exist. These coordinates are just Exult's way of telling you he's dead.
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:34 am
by WishStone Dragon (not logged)
Well, I had to re-load and re-play when I stupidly killed the man (also due to the damn wand, I should have understood the spell "Tremmor" or "Quake" or what is was, sooner).
Seeing you use the cheats (possibly hack mover and so on as well?) that SHOULD be done in a matter of hours to get back to this point, no matter where you where in the beginning ;]
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:41 am
by wjp
Dominus: re. 3. So you can't teleport there (even if we had that function)
Teleporting to an NPC works fine. (Except when he's at (4095,4095), obviously
)
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:23 am
by Dominus
oops
We don't have teleport to loaction, right?
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:16 am
by Volatios Dragon
Wow, okay. I guess that's it for Serpent Isle. It'll take a while for this to sink in - I really can't believe death is a completely final condition in this game!
I mean, it seems like it should be a simple "Dead? Yes/no" kind of flag, but I don't know anything about Exult so I'll just give up with dignity. Thanks for the answers and again thanks to all Exult creators for the amazing, amazing job done on this thing.
Cheers,
Addison Godel (Volatios Dragon, UDIC)
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:34 am
by Dominus
well if someone (wjp?) could telly you the flag for this ducio conversation to appear I guess Archwizard would be fine too. after all you are willing to cheat anyway...
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:08 am
by wjp
Flag 616 controls if Ducio will make worm gems or not.
So:
F2, F, 616, S, X, X
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:28 pm
by Volatios Dragon
Using archwizard and setting the flag seems to have gotten me through. THanks! A bummer that I have to use archwizard, but, so it goes.
Cheers,
Addison
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:07 pm
by Achile dragon
That make me think when I search anywhere Karnax without have killing him and it send me at some strange coordonate.
Maybe it's their schedule who been mixed-up
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:19 am
by Dominus
A bummer that I have to use archwizard, but, so it goes.
after having killed npcs you are not supposed to kill that is just the way it is.
Achile: I can't understand what you mean...
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:21 am
by marzo
Instead of using ArchMage, you can create the scroll. The shape browser doesn't let you set the quality, but you can add a custom key binding that does: add the following line to your "sidefaultkeys.txt" file:
Shift-Ctrl-1 create_item 715 0 1 27 # Create "Create Soul Prism" scroll
Then, open Exult and press Shift-Crtl-1 to create the scroll; you can remove the binding later.
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:23 pm
by Achile dragon
Well when i don't use the gate and f3 teleport to monk isle, Karnax, Thoxa aren't found anywhere. The same thing happen when I finish the silver seed. Karnax litteraly disapears from the map and when i check his schedule with f2 it gave me some strange coordonate (4000, 4000) I think and when i teleport there I was in skullcrusher.
Re: Cheat Implementation (Stuck on Torrissio)
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:29 pm
by Dominus
oh, well, then don't cheat. Especially the first time trip to monk isle is important and also getting on/off SilverSeed shouldn't be done with cheating...