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Just pulled down the Mac OS X 1.1.9rc1 DMG. When I try to launch it it fails (no error message or anything.) I tried launching it from the terminal using the command:

Exult.app/Contents/MacOS/exult

and the output I got was:

dyld: Exult.app/Contents/MacOS/exult can't open library: /sw/lib/libSDL_mixer-1.2.0.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Trace/BPT trap

Looks like it is looking for the SDL_mixer dylib in the standard Fink directory?? Previous builds have not required the installation of Fink.

Notwithstanding the fact that I (and *all* the other Mac OS X users I know) don't like fink and refuse to install it.. you can rest assured that requiring fink will be the kiss of death for exult use under Mac OS X. Non-developers (aka average users) of Mac OS X will never install it.

Can we please go back to static linking, or start using embedded framework versions of the required libraries?

. Why do people always have to forget their manners when writting on the net? Anyways, I guess that means I can now forget mine, too

First off: there is a fixed, static linked binary online now. Not linking it statically was simply a mistake in the build process, no "evil intention", as you seem to believe.


Now, I can't resist commenting a bit on the rest of you inflammatory comment ...

Notwithstanding the fact that I (and *many* the other Mac OS X users I know) like and use Fink and refuse to use a machine where it is not installed -- (and clearly, this is completely irrelevant, just as your remark was irrelevant) -- you can rest assued that telling us that this is (in your eyes, at least) the kiss of death for exult use under Mac OS X will, at most, cause us to regretful shrug, then continue.

It's not as if we had money to loose... As long as we can, we try to our best to support OS X users just like anybody else. And are grateful for any constructive criticism, and usually act promplty on it. But threats against our "market share", are just plain silly .

Can we please go back to serious discussion, or start using separate forums for silly flame wars like this? Preferably ones which I don't read . A good step toward that will be to just tell us when something is wrong, without jumping to conclusions about our intentions. Thanks!

Fingolfin: I sincerely apologise.

You correctly surmised that I thought that an intentional decision to require fink had been made.. but I did not view such a decision as evil. I don't have anything against fink users and I was not trying to 'threaten' exult's market share in any way. I was trying to point out that it seemed clear to me that a decision to require fink would do the threatening all by itself, since almost all non-developers won't know nor want to know how to get fink set up (at least, that's how it seems to me.)

I was not trying to start a fink-antifink flame war... I just don't think average users should be required to set fink up in order to run non-developer end-user software.

Thankyou for creating a statically linked download. I shall endeavour, in future, to word my posts in such a way that they do not convey hostility I did not intend.

I have no idea what fink is... All I know is that I like playing Ultima 7 and I'd like to drag-and-drop and then double-click something to get it to work. =:-)

OS X Jaguar