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Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:29 am
by fervieira
When I'm setting the three amulets at Dark Core, the blue, the left one, disappears behind the Dark Core and I can't no longer get it back. Sorry for so many questions.

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:54 am
by Gradilla Dragon
Yea, that's common to happen. It has to do with the way Exult handles the item droppings. Reload and keep trying :P

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:12 am
by Achile
Same thing with the Erstam machine. You know just move it with hack mover

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:22 am
by drcode
This might be a good thing to fix.

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:58 am
by wjp
Ultima 8/Pentagram handle dragging in an interesting way: while dragging, a transparent version of the object is drawn in the exact place in the world where you would drop the item. This transparent item is also properly 'sorted', so you can see exactly when it would fall behind something.

Might be a feature to consider for Exult as well, although it's probably somewhat tricky to implement.

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:39 am
by Colourless
A consideration is to actually make the object sorting code more like pentagrams which would make something like this easier.

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:42 am
by Bomb Bloke
Concerning the drops, I have an interesting stack of chests... I think the game engine sometimes misplaces items...

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:31 pm
by drcode
In Pentagram, if the item will fall in an inaccessible spot, does it still let you drop it there?

I'm pretty sure the original U7 does a pretty good job of preventing the user from losing objects.

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:33 am
by wjp
You can probably lose items by dropping them in the wrong place in U8 and pentagram. I think it's fairly hard to do it accidentally while dragging an item, though. It's easier to lose items by having something explode... (explosions knock items back and can make them land behind walls)

Re: Is this a bug?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:33 pm
by drcode
There's now code in Exult that's supposed to prevent you from dropping an item where it would no longer be visible. I'm hoping it doesn't cause any problems.