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Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 3:15 pm**

That seemed like the good place considering how many people worked with Exult and such here, so I was wondering if anyone had by any chance a list of Serpent Isle's Bestiary and (most importantly) the number of respective XP point they give when killed

Thanks

-Sergorn

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 3:19 pm**

No idea about the Xp, but all mosters exclusive to Serpent Isle are here:
http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Monsters#Serpent_Isle

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 3:34 pm**

The exact XP value is tricky: it depends on the exact value of the monster's stats (they are randomized when the monster is spawned) and on the exact equipment carried (which is also generally randomized based on a list).

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 4:09 pm**

Oh drat. Would there be a way to make an average or something ?

-Sergorn

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 5:22 pm**

So I've made up this list for the bestiary :

Acid Slug
Alligator
Animated Armor
Automaton (Brass)
Automaton (Steel)
Bat, Giant
Bear
Bear, Polar
Bird
Boar
Cat
Chicken
Corpser
Cow
Cyclops
Daemon (Gargoyles)
Deer
Dog
Dragon
Fish
Fire Elemental
Fox
Frost Serpent
Gazer
Ghost
Goblin
Gremlin
Gwani
Harpy
Headless
Ice Corpser
Ice Elemental
Ice Troll
Ice Worm
Insect
Lich
Mongbat
Mouse
Mummy
Naga
Penguin
Phoenix
Rabbit
Rat, Giant
Ratman
Reaper
Scorpion
Serpent
Sheep
Skeletal Dragon
Skeleton
Slime
Snow Leopard
Spider, Giant
Stone Harpy
Swamp Tentacle
Troll
Wildmen
Winged Worm
Witch
Wolf

Did I forgot something ?

-Sergorn

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 11:17 pm**

Well, I went to make a quick experience dumper and realized that there were a few errors in Exult when comparing with my notes.

In this post, I give the average experience value of the monsters, including all equipment, for BG with FoV. In the next post, I will add the experience values for SI with SS.

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Shape   Name                    XP Value
154     mage                      88.350
230     ethereal monster          59.500
247     paladin                   38.100
259     fighter                   34.175
299     ghost                     22.500
317     ghost                     22.500
337     ghost                     21.000
354     liche                     73.250
381     three headed hydra        56.750
382     Kissme                    24.500
394     guard                     38.350
401     pirate                    46.800
403     Batlin                    26.000
447     wounded man               19.000
466     Lord British              23.000
482     Batlin                    19.000
491     acid slug                 18.500
492     alligator                 25.500
493     bat                       10.500
494     bee                       20.500
495     cat                        7.000
496     dog                       12.000
498     chicken                    4.500
499     corpser                   18.000
500     cow                       11.500
501     cyclops                   30.050
502     deer                      13.500
504     dragon                    63.500
505     drake                     50.500
506     Hook                      21.000
509     fish                       5.500
510     fox                        9.000
511     gazer                     87.350
513     gremlin                   13.500
514     headless                  21.550
517     insects                    5.500
519     liche                     22.500
521     mouse                      5.500
523     rat                       12.500
524     reaper                    24.000
525     sea serpent               26.500
528     skeleton                  19.000
529     slime                     13.000
530     snake                     11.500
532     harpie                    19.000
533     troll                     26.075
534     wisp                      29.000
536     tentacles                 23.500
537     wolf                      19.000
661     mongbat                   17.000
706     scorpion                  16.500
716     bird                       8.000
727     horse                     18.000
753     stone harpie              45.500
784     emp                        7.500
806     guard                     36.850
811     rabbit                     6.000
865     spider                    17.000
883     wingless Gargoyle         23.500
884     Fellowship member         25.300
929     Fellowship member         25.300
946     guard                     41.350
952     The Ferryman              30.500
970     sheep                      2.000
1015    Golem                     46.000

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 11:19 pm**

Here are the values for SI + SS:

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Shape   Name                    XP Value
179     monk                      20.500
214     gwani                     25.000
226     mage                      24.500
228     pikeman                   38.300
229     man                       16.500
230     woman                     18.500
247     jester                    15.500
250     monk                      20.000
259     ranger                    22.500
265     townsman                  16.500
288     slime attack              19.000
298     penguin                   16.000
299     Cantra                    17.500
302     bear                      25.500
304     man                       18.000
305     serpent statue            11.500
312     ghoul                     17.500
317     Anti-Shamino              32.500
318     Batlin                    19.000
319     peasant                   25.500
329     boar                      13.000
334     wildman                   16.500
337     ghost                     24.000
354     Goblin King               26.500
363     magic gremlin             21.500
372     ice troll                 34.500
373     mummy                     21.500
375     unicorn                   19.000
381     Fawn guard                20.500
382     ratman                    12.000
392     Xenka                     29.000
401     mage                      20.000
446     ugly old woman            25.000
447     timberwolf                17.500
449     bear                      27.000
451     noble                     17.000
454     shopkeeper                12.500
455     shopkeeper                12.000
457     gypsy                     17.500
458     pirate                    25.000
460     skeletal dragon           47.000
461     ranger                     7.500
462     fighter                   25.500
464     paladin                   22.500
465     Iolo                      20.500
468     stranger                  16.500
469     woman                     16.500
472     child                      8.500
478     goblin                    47.850
480     gargoyle                  22.500
487     Shamino                   25.500
488     Dupre                     26.500
491     acid slug                 19.000
492     alligator                 25.000
493     bat                       11.000
494     undead                    17.500
495     cat                        6.500
496     dog                       15.500
498     chicken                    4.500
499     corpser                   16.500
500     cow                       11.000
501     cyclops                   29.050
502     deer                      13.000
509     fish                       5.500
510     fox                       11.000
511     gazer                     86.000
514     headless                  18.050
517     insects                    5.500
521     dream creature            14.000
523     rat                        7.500
524     reaper                    23.500
528     skeleton                  19.000
529     slime                     13.000
530     snake                     11.000
532     harpie                    21.500
533     troll                     26.250
536     tentacles                 26.000
537     wolf                      16.500
550     suit of armour            20.500
560     priestess                 22.500
565     fighter                   29.000
581     old man                   15.500
588     vampire                   32.500
647     female pikeman            31.300
652     woman                     11.000
658     automaton                 33.500
660     skinless woman             9.000
661     mongbat                   16.500
665     dark female monk          27.500
669     Gwenno                    23.500
691     goblin                    45.850
702     phoenix                   33.500
703     ice corpser               18.000
706     scorpion                  16.000
716     bird                       7.500
725     goblin                    18.000
734     automaton                 42.000
742     wench                     13.000
744     goblin                    14.000
747     automaton                 42.000
753     stone harpy               45.000
754     leopard                   16.000
763     ice worm                  12.000
766     woman                     13.000
772     parrot                     6.000
793     Lord British              34.500
798     baby ice dragon           28.500
805     fighter                   24.000
809     mage                      21.500
811     rabbit                     6.000
814     mage                      22.000
815     monster                   28.000
816     fighter                   27.500
817     man                       21.000
818     counselor                 21.000
830     man                       13.500
832     frost serpent            180.500
846     naga                      32.500
853     ghost                     21.000
855     captain                   21.000
861     Fire Elemental            22.000
862     gwani                     17.500
865     spider                    15.000
867     gwani child                7.500
874     hound                     27.500
877     ice dragon                38.000
880     Mad Iolo                  32.500
882     winged viper              12.500
883     wingless Gargoyle         27.000
885     nightmare                 22.500
888     mage                      20.500
906     Anti-Dupre                35.500
915     tentacle                  26.500
916     mageling                   8.000
917     Trapper                   18.500
945     (Isstanar)                61.000
946     healer                    15.500
947     man                       34.000
957     catman                    31.500
968     magical ice creature      26.500
970     sheep                      2.000
975     madman                   577.000
978     dragon                    59.000
979     manspider                 48.500
981     Aram Dol                  87.750
1015    woman                    516.000

Posted: **Sun May 17, 2009 11:21 pm**

Also, a disclaimer: These values may be considerably less if the enemy (say, liches) spend a few spells or weapons before you kill them. You also get no experience if the enemy is asleep when you kill him.

In SI, there are also a few enemies which die because their usecode tells them to; you get no XP in this case.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 2:37 am**

Cool, I always wondered about the averages.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 3:24 am**

I noticed some strange values and discovered a slight mistake in the xp dumper; I fixed the two tables above. Most of the values turned out to be correct anyway, so not much harm done.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 4:28 am**

975 madman 577.000
1015 woman 516.000

These two are really high without a noticeable reason in ES.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 5:44 am**

Something looks wrong with those values. The SI frost serpent (those white sea serpents in the northern sea, right?) is worth an order of magnitude more than nearly everything else. Some BG liches are worth less than ordinary trolls (also significantly less than gazers, mages, and other liches). The other BG liches are still worth less than gazers and mages, yet they're the only one of the three that can one-shot you (discounting a high damage roll when you're low on health, of course).

I'm sure you calculated things correctly. I'm just looking at it from a game balance perspective.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 9:59 am**

Awww, I was really excited about the ridiculous liche experience.

975 madman 577.000
1015 woman 516.000

These two are really high without a noticeable reason in ES.

The reason is they're very powerful. The madman is the Silver Seed boss who wants the ring of reagents and is crazy hard to kill.

The woman is the mage from the Serpent's Fang basement. I've never tried to kill her, but I imagine she'd be pretty tough.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 am**

When killed in game, she averages less than 20 xp. He gives 86 xp. This is before his code changes but I only remember an extra flag giving more xp and and dex giving slightly more.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2009 10:30 am**

Oops, the binary download was updated to include the changes. Is Exult counting xp before the item wipe or after?

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2009 2:54 am**

Hey, I have a related question: What are the healing rates (min to max) of some of the various items and spells?

Heal spell
Yellow Potion
Bandages

Or are they all the same? I know that the effects of the Cure spell and Red Potion are different (cure only removes poison, whereas a red potion also removes paralysis and most other negative conditions)

Posted: **Fri May 22, 2009 1:40 am**

The numbers quoted are going to be "neutral" numbers - that is, amounts before modifiers. The spells and items they possess when they die factor in, if I remember correctly.

I recall this specifically, because characters in SI that you have used the "Vibrate" spell on, will be worth considerably less XP.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2009 11:36 am**

Thanks for the stats

This is exacly what I was looking for !

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2009 2:21 pm**

Wizardry is correct: the values I provided are averages using full gear. Not all enemies will have all gear (some of the entries have 50% chance, others are 75% chance and so on) and some of that gear may have been spent by the time you kill the monster (goblins throw their spears, for example), and both will lower the actual XP you get. Conversely, any given instance of the monster may have the full gear, causing it to give more XP than is indicated in the tables.

Also, any given monster may have higher or lower stats, which will also change the XP given. There is also the fact that some monsters may be spawned by means other than eggs, which may result in it having no equipment whatsoever or much less equipment than egg-spawned monsters would have.

You will only see the values in the tables if you spawn then kill the monster a very large number of times, then average the XP you gained from the monster.

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