Finding item by quality?

[Daphne]

There is a way to locate where in the map all object with same QUALITY are?
(IE key and chest/door with quality=243)

[drcode]

No, not yet. I can see how that could be useful.

[drcode]

There's now a 'quality' field you can set in the 'locate' box, so you can search for a key or door with a given quality. (But you still have to first choose the type of item you're looking for.)

[Malignant Manor]

I think there was mention before about keys and/or doors with unknown uses. I might make a note of door and key qualities so mods have a list of what is used.

[Malignant Manor]

Is there a way to keep the search information in memory for a longer duration? It takes a lot of time to get the map scanned and if you keep searching you can find objects quickly after that. The problem is this only lasts about a minute or two after you stop cycling. Having the data kept for about 10 minutes once you stop actively searching would be nice. The game tends to lock up sometimes when searching (or just takes many minutes to finish).


I have 65 qualities for Black Gate keys documented so far. I'm doing it in a spreadsheet and will transfer it to either a ".doc" file or ".rtf" so it can be viewed legibly. I'm not sure which file would be better for non-Windows users or if either file would be sufficient.

[marzo]

I'm not sure which file would be better for non-Windows users or if either file would be sufficient.

The best bet would be html or formatted plain text; I'd prefer the latter, even in Windows.

[Malignant Manor]

I'm almost done with the Black Gate key qualities. Are there any doors or chests that you know of that don't have keys besides the one listed? Are there any usecode created keys besides those listed?


no key found for item

149~ 26 N, 13 E, Chest in Despise (It seems like a mistake. 2 potions are inside and the chest is accessible)



Usecode created keys

066 Test of Courage-Placing glass sword on floor
224 Venom quest key
234~ 83 S, 57 House of Games door (I'm not sure if this is usecode created. Sintag the guard in the House of Games is supposed to give you the key according to the guides)
237 Penumbra's house key
249 Fellowship Retreat key
251 Bath House key
254 Alagnar's key
255 All inn keys

[marzo]

You missed the following usecode keys:

The jailkeeper in the courthouse can sell you a key with quality 248.
Morfin gives you Garritt's key, quality 240. Key with quality 234 is indeed usecode-created.
A key with quality 65 is created by usecode in the test of courage -- it is given to the mage you face at the beginning of the test (the one that summons the liche).

[Malignant Manor]

Morfin gives you Garritt's key, quality 240.

Is key 240 correct? The door in The Library of Scars is the only thing I can find that is quality 240 and a key is found in the house to the north (De Snel's?). 224 is the chest quality that the venom is in. (I still need to through the side quest this later.)

A key with quality 65 is created by usecode in the test of courage -- it is given to the mage you face at the beginning of the test (the one that summons the liche).

It is pretty redundant since the key is in that room already, but makes sense that he would have one. It is probably why I forgot.



Here is another I found one that is usecode created

230 created in Cynthia's corpse when she dies. (It seems kind of pointless since she holds the other two keys to the mint.)

[Malignant Manor]

I'm finally finished. The text will look awful on the forum, but I will include it at the end. I have 3 different formats txt (plain text), xlr [Microsoft Works Spreadsheet (original)], and rtf (rich text document). I'll send you an e-mail Marzo since I know you have problems with the download site.

Black Gate Key Locations



Black Gate Key Locations

by Malignant Manor
2007, 11-12

Key # Location Found What It Opens

000 109 S, 27 W, Hut west of Trinsic Skeleton key for most pickable/breakable locks
000 29 S, 141 E, Shrine of Truth? (inaccessible?) Skeleton key for most pickable/breakable locks
001 Not found
002 Not found
003 Not found
004 Not found
005 Not found
006 Not found
007 Not found
008 Not found
009 Not found
010 Not found
011 Not found
012 Not found
013 Not found
014 Not found
015 Not found
016 Not found
017 Not found
018 Not found
019 Not found
020 Not found
021 Not found
022 Not found
023 Not found
024 Not found
025 83 S, 64 E, Drawer in Gordy's house in Buccaneer's Den 82 S, 63 E, Chest in same house
026 Not found
027 Not found
028 Not found
029 Not found
030 Not found
031 Not found
032 Not found
033 19 S, 31 W, Selwyn's Dungeon (Despise) 21 S, 41 W, Several chests in Selwyn's Dungeon (Despise)
033 20 S, 36 W, Selwyn's Dungeon (Despise) 21 S, 41 W, Several chests in Selwyn's Dungeon (Despise)
034 Not found
035 Not found
036 Not found
037 Not found
038 Not found
039 Not found
040 Not found
041 Not found
042 Not found
043 Not found
044 Not found
045 Not found
046 Not found
047 Not found
048 Not found
049 Not found
050 30 S, 119 E, Test of Truth 31 S, 122 E, door east of key
051 30 S, 123 E, Test of Truth 29 S, 120 E, door northwest of key
052 29 S, 199 E, Test of Truth 29 S, 122 E, door east of key
053 29 S, 123 E, Test of Truth 28 S, 119 E, door northwest of key
054 27 S, 118 E, Test of Truth 28 S, 124 E, door east of key
055 2 N, 48 E, Fish's body Northwest side of Lock Lake 22 S, 25 E, Mack's shed in Britain, 128 S, 3 W, chest under tree southwest of Trinsic
055 130 S, 1 W, Under rock Southwest of Trinsic 22 S, 25 E, Mack's shed in Britain, 128 S, 3 W, chest northwest of key
056 Not found
057 163 S, 7 E, Pirate outpost south of Trinsic 161 S, 7 E, Chest north of key
058 Not found
059 Not found
060 172 S, 184 E, Isle of the Avatar 176 S, 190 E, Doors southeast of key
061 177 S, 187 E, Isle of the Avatar (npc in area also has key) (2 keys) 176 S, 188 E, Door in same area
062 136 S, 163 E, Isle of the Avatar (Toth, npc mage has it) 136 S, 164 E, Chest in same area
063 Not found
064 Not found
065 53 S, 130 E, mage that summons liche (usecode created) 53 S, 135 E, Door east of the key
065 55 S, 133 E, mage's body in Test of Courage 53 S, 135 E, Door northeast of the key
066 48 S, 131 E, Test of Courage by putting glass sword on a floor 47 S, 133 E, Door northeast of the key
067 Not found
068 Not found
069 Not found
070 Not found
071 Not found
072 Not found
073 Not found
074 Not found
075 Not found
076 Not found
077 Not found
078 Not found
079 Not found
080 Not found
081 Not found
082 Not found
083 Not found
084 Not found
085 Not found
086 Not found
087 Not found
088 Not found
089 Not found
090 Not found
091 Not found
092 Not found
093 Not found
094 Not found
095 Not found
096 Not found
097 Not found
098 Not found
099 32 N, 3 W, Corpse in Despise Some doors and chests in Despise, 117 S, 44 W, Chest on island
099 117 S, 45 W, Desk in hidden island room north of Jhelom 117 S, 44 W, Chest northeast of key, Some doors and chests in Despise
100 125 S, 76 W, Inside bag in Cave on island Northwest of Jhelom 124 S, 76 W, Chests in same cave
101 7 S, 25 W, Mage NPC Korryn in Despise 7 S, 26 W, Chest in same area
102 6 S, 25 W, Paladin NPC Brax in Despise 7 S, 25 W, Chest in same area
103 7 S, 25 W, Nightstand in Despise 6 S, 25 W, Chest north of key
104 Not found
105 Not found
106 Not found
107 Not found
108 Not found
109 Not found
110 Not found
111 37 N, 161 E, Under bucket northeast of Vesper 41 N, 158 E, Chest Northwest of key
112 Not found
113 Not found
114 Not found
115 Not found
116 Not found
117 Not found
118 Not found
119 Not found
120 Not found
121 Not found
122 Not found
123 Not found
124 Not found
125 Not found
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127 Not found
128 Not found
129 Not found
130 Not found
131 Not found
132 Not found
133 Not found
134 Not found
135 Not found
136 Not found
137 Not found
138 Not found
139 Not found
140 Not found
141 Not found
142 Not found
143 Not found
144 Not found
145 Not found
146 Not found
147 Not found
148 16 N, 10 W, Bottom crate in Despise 27 N, 12 E, Door in Despise
149 Not found 26 N, 13 E, Chest in Despise (no key)
150 Not found
151 16 N, 19 E, Despise 23 N, 12 E, Chest northwest of the key
152 17 N, 19 E, Despise 23 N, 16 E, Chest northwest of the key
153 Not found
154 Not found
155 Not found
156 Not found
157 Not found
158 Not found
159 Not found
160 Not found
161 Not found
162 Not found
163 Not found
164 Not found
165 Not found
166 Not found
167 Not found
168 Not found
169 Not found
170 Not found
171 Not found
172 Not found
173 Not found
174 Not found
175 Not found
176 Not found
177 48 N, 137 E, Inside chest northeast of Vesper 158 S, 51 E, Chest in dining hall of Serpent's Hold
178 Not found
179 Not found
180 89 S, 55 E, Inside drawers south of casino in Buccaneer's Den 96 S, 76 E, Chest southeast of key
181 Not found
182 Not found
183 Not found
184 Not found
185 Not found
186 Not found
187 Not found
188 Not found
189 Not found
190 Not found
191 Not found
192 Not found
193 Not found
194 Not found
195 Not found
196 Not found
197 Not found
198 Not found
199 161 S, 53 E, Inside fish body in Serpent's Hold 174 S, 33E, Chest in Serpent's Hold cave
200 31 S, 65 E, Inside crate in Cove cave 30 S, 52 E, Chest west of key
201 40 N, 0 E, in Despise 31 N, 5 W, Door southwest of key
202 45 N, 2 E, in Despise Not found
203 Not found
204 Not found
205 34 N, 0 E, Bag in Despise 33 N, 1 W, Door in Despise, 16 N, 176 E, Door in Deceit
205 25 N, 178 E, Under treasure pile in Deceit 33 N, 1 W, Door in Despise, 16 N, 176 E, Door in Deceit
206 Not found
207 Not found
208 18 N, 5 E, Crate in Despise 19 N, 1 E, Door in Despise
209 Not found
210 Not found
211 Not found
212 Not found
213 24 N, 26 W, in Despise 27 N, 28 W, Invisible chest northwest of key
214 Not found
215 Not found
216 Not found
217 Not found
218 Not found
219 Not found
220 Not found
221 Not found
222 Not found
223 Not found
224 Fellowship Shelter in Paws (Morfin gives key during venom quest) (usecode created) 39 S, 11 W, Chest in Fellowship Shelter in Paws
225 62 N, 81 E, Drawers in Britainian Mining Company Minoc Branch 60 N, 81 E, Chest south of key
226 159 S, 166 E, Inside body in dungeon on Isle of the Avatar 162 S, 178 E, Door in dungeon on Isle of the Avatar
227 141 S, 167 E, Inside backpack in dungeon on Isle of the Avatar 106 S, 184 E, Door in dungeon on Isle of the Avatar
228 63 S, 61 E, Fellowship dungeon in Buccaneer's Den (Grod has key) 62 S, 62 E, Opens Anton's cell door in the Fellowship dungeon in Buccaneer's Den
229 13 S, 10 E, Inside Cynthia's house in Britain 14 S, 3 E, Door in Britainian mint
229 15 S, 3 E, Cynthia has key in Britain 14 S, 3 E, Door in Britainian mint
230 15 S, 3 E, Cynthia's corpse (usecode created) in Britain 13 S, 5 E, Door in Britainian mint
231 15 S, 3 E, Cynthia has key in Britain 15 S, 5 E, 2 Doors in Britainian mint
232 19 S, 10 W, Batlin's house in Britain 19 S, 12 W, Chest in Batlin's house
233 Not found 34 S, 5 W, Door in jewelry shop in Britain
234 Not found
235 Not found
236 3 S, 3 W, Drawer in Lord British's castle 0 S, 4 W, Storeroom door in Lord British's castle
237 26 S, 179 E, Solve puzzle in front of Penumbra's house in Lycaeum (usecode created) 25 S, 179 E, Front door of Penumbra's house in Lycaeum
238 Not found 84 N, 53 W, Gharl's cell door in Yew
239 Not found 83 N, 53 W, D Rel's cell door in Yew
240 133 S, 46 W, Nightstand in D Snel's house in Jhelom 138 S, 48 W, Door in House of Scars in Jhelom
241 Not found 9 S, 4 W, Weston's cell door in British's castle, Doors in Despise
242 68 S, 1 W, Under bucket in butcher's shop in Paws 66 S, 0 E, Butcher's shop chest in Paws, 58 S, 2 E, Chest in butcher's house
243 81 N, 56 E, House in Minoc Not found
244 174 S, 33 E, Chest in Serpent's Hold cave 157 S, 52 E, Door in Serpent's Hold castle's blacksmith shop
244 162 S, 48 E, Under clothing in Serpent's Hold castle 157 S, 52 E, Door in Serpent's Hold castle's blacksmith shop
245 58 S, 1 E, Butcher's house in Paws 67 S, 0 E, Butcher's shop door in Paws
246 88 S, 54 E, Chest in Buccaneer's Den near casino 170 S, 178 E, Front of Isle of Avatar, 163 S, 170 E, Guardian's throne room
247 63 S, 61 E, Fellowship dungeon in Buccaneer's Den (Grod has key) 62 S, 61 E, Opens Sullivan's cell door in Fellowship dungeon in Buccaneer's Den
248 84 N, 53 W, Goth has the key (usecode created) 83 N, 51 W, Your cell door in Yew
249 179 S, 83 E, Fellowship Retreat (Ian will give key after joining fellowship) (usecode created) 180 S, 83 E, Fellowship Retreat door
250 25 S, 16 W, Drawer in Sentri's house in Britain 23 S, 19 W, Door in Sentri's house
251 80 S, 62 E, Bath house key in Buccaneer's Den (Glenno has the key) (usecode created) 80 S, 62 E, Opens front door of Bath house in Buccaneer's Den
252 140 S, 89 E, Stone Harpy has key in Spektran 140 S, 89 E, door in Spektran
253 106 S, 13 E, Trinsic Stables 99 S, 3 E, Chest in Spark's house in Trinsic
254 78S, 129 E, New Magincia (Alagner will give key after doing his quest) (usecode created) 85 S, 126 E, Doors in Alagnar's storehouse in New Magincia
255 Inn key for every inn (Innkeeper has the key) (usecode created) Unlocks the rooms in every inn

[Tobyn]

nice to have this list, thanks

000 109 S, 27 W, Hut west of Trinsic Skeleton key for most pickable/breakable locks
000 29 S, 141 E, Shrine of Truth? (inaccessible?) Skeleton key for most pickable/breakable locks

what do you mean with "most" pickable locks? Are there any locks which can be picked but not opened with that key?

Just visited the second location - by the appearance and the hacked off passages this would be the area you see in a crystal ball as hint to solve a riddle - put the glass sword on the altar to get a key...

[Malignant Manor]

Just visited the second location - by the appearance and the hacked off passages this would be the area you see in a crystal ball as hint to solve a riddle - put the glass sword on the altar to get a key...

Yeah, darn sleep deprivation or stupidity for making me not think of the obvious.

what do you mean with "most" pickable locks? Are there any locks which can be picked but not opened with that key?

Actually, it should be able to open all pickable chests and lock them too. I think I started with "skeleton key for most locks" and then tried to be more specific.

[marzo]

Is key 240 correct?

Actually, no you are right: it is 224 (I should have used the calculator to convert from hex instead of doing it by head).

230 created in Cynthia's corpse when she dies.

That one is actually not created in usecode, it is already in her possession; you just can't see it with paperdolls enabled (but you can see it if you turn them off).

[Malignant Manor]

That one is actually not created in usecode, it is already in her possession; you just can't see it with paperdolls enabled (but you can see it if you turn them off).

I don't think that the Exult Studio search recognizes it with paperdolls enabled.

[marzo]

I don't think that the Exult Studio search recognizes it with paperdolls enabled.

It should. Hm. Does the Exult Studio search recognize any items carried by NPCs or inside containers (I can't test it right now)?

[Malignant Manor]

Yes, it does.

Faulty memory on my part about it not being found with Exult Studio. It was probably, because it was already highlighting her from the other key/s she has. Thus it said it wasn't found in another location and since I wasn't thinking about the paperdolls keeping the key from being seen, I though it only appeared when you killed her.