banquet in Monitor

[Rigel]

During the knighthood banquet, everyone starts to accuse each other of being a spy. When the fighting begins everyone just runs at avatar and begins attacking him. This will continue forever if I let it. What do I do?

[suraimu]

KILL ZEM, KILL ZEM ALL

[Los Schaboss]

with me shanaya died because of luther

[suraimu]

I've always found that the banquet was really buggy even in the original
game. There were several times where the guy accused of being a spy
was -killed-, and I was unable to progress in the game.

[Rigel]

I thought that maybe I could wait it out, but noone ever dies, and I cant attack anyone back, the game makes me stay in the seat

[drcode]

I'd guess your alignment got set to 'evil', somehow.

[wjp]

Could we hard-code the Avatar's (and party members') alignment to good?

OTOH, this would be fixing the symptom, not the cause of the problem :/

[Rigel]

How do you find out what the alignment is

[drcode]

wjp: Yes, I'm thinking of doing that. I don't think the original U7 ever sets the Avatar's alignment to anything other than 'good', so it should be safe. (I'm wondering if I did something dumb and set it in the 'theft()' routine. Think I'll check that.)

[artaxerxes]

Wouldn't the hard coding of GOOD alignment prevent the good functioning of the stealing mechanism?

Artaxerxes

[suraimu]

If the setting of evil alignment causes everyone to attack you, then I
don't think it's involved in the stealing mechanism. Your party doesn't
up and attack you when you steal a jam bun.

[Neutronium Dragon]

What about when a party member is charmed? Does that tinker with the alignment?

Neutronium Dragon

[drcode]

Not sure about 'charmed'. And I'd bet we don't handle it correctly. I think it's supposed to make you attack NPC's that have your alignment, so you're attacking your 'friends'.

And yes, stealing doesn't change your alignment.

[Max aka Moscow Dragon]

IIRC "charm" means alignment change, and not more.
Let's look in usecode for details.

[Rigel]

I was still wondering if anyone knows how to stop this from happening.(first message)

[Thomas Decker]

I had a bug with the Monitor banquet as well, though a slightly different one. Whenever I attended my knighthood banquet, the pikeman attending the listfield would disappear - making it impossible to train. Restarting the game did not improve this, so I "saved" him by dragging him on top of the roof of the banquet hall, dragging him back afterwards. Cursed teleportation storms

That worked, but Caladin seems to be gone to never-neverland instead. The cheat menu says he's somewhere around 4000.4000.0 (Outside of the map, IIRC). I don't need him anymore, plotwise, now that I can train. It's not exactly a plot stopper, but being not able to train can be quite annoying. I don't know if i've got a savegame before the banquet, but I'll have a look.

[Stephan]

The disappearing pikeman happened in the original as well, unfortunately.

[drcode]

Strange. The pikeman who runs the List Field is created by an egg that's by the desk. He should get recreated automatically if you walk a screenful or so away and then come back.

[Stephan]

In the original, the pikeman -could- come back if you walked away for a good distance and came back. There was no guarantee of it, however, and in one game of Serpent Isle, he vanished after I finished the Knighthood test and never came back. I had to train in Silver Seed! Gack.

[Thomas Decker]

As I said, training works now, however Caladin is inaccessable. Too bad, he was my favourite trainer. But hey, I have Luther and Shazzana, so what.