chaos hierophant attacksme after summon shade

[Los Schaboss]

well , in the original game there should be a house with ghosts in it ad they where the chaos hieropant , and talked to you nearly endless times , now they attack you - as i startet to use the new excult engine i used an total new save , and when i cane to this house the gohsts wouldnt talk , the attacked me - this was cool - but when i summoned the chaos hierophant ( i got all serpent things - ring , staff , armor crown , necklace and earings on my body ) he attaked me , i tried it several times , but each time he attacked me , and i cant load the savegame in the old excult version i also have on my computer.

please help !

[irinotecan]

This is a known bug in the original game. The Chaos Hierophant is not supposed to be here, only the ghosts. Apparantly, the bug is in the usecode, because if I talk to -any- of the ghosts in Exult (before they attack me) they give me the Chaos Hierophant. You can also talk to the fake Chaos Hierophant before getting any of the quest items.

I believe that there is a patch for this somewhere on the 'net. Does anybody know if this patch fixes SI under Exult? And, where is the patch located?

The real Chaos Hierophant is somewhere in the crypts up north, although I solved the game originally by talking to the fake one in the haunted house and only found out I wasn't supposed to do this later, so I don't know the exact location of the real Hierophant

[Max aka Moscow Dragon]

"Read books, they rulez" - (C) one famous Russian FIDO person.

Yes. Read all books in U7. You will have lots of clues, including the position of the Chaos Hierophant body.

I also consider we must not patch the original's plot-related bugs. Having the perverted walkthrough from www.it-he.org working in Exult is a great idea.

[Stephan]

Errr, I think you guys missed his point. He has found the real Chaos Heirophant, but when summoning his shade, the shade attacks him. I don't know what to do about that.

[drcode]

Could you submit a bug report with a savegame just before you're about to summon the real Hierophant? This sounds like another bug which was fixed fairly recently.

[Chris Schumacher]

Actually, you don't learn the location of the body of the Chaos Hierophant from
a book, you're told by Sethys, the prisoner in the Temple of Tolerance (I think it is),
who gives your the orb to use as a focus when you talk to him.

[Dominus]

The bug in the original where the chaos hierophant would speak to you endlessly at that haunted house near the sleeping bull is fixed in the original by making hostile NPCs not able to speak to you when you doubleclick them. I must admit that I was one of those that favoured fixing that bug and I still think it is good that it is fixed. Breaking the Anti-walkthrough is not that good but keeping bugs just to be compatible to this walkthrough is quite pointless in my eyes.
Fixing the bug with the pillars in the Silver Seed fortress is also one of the features I requested after the 1.0 release.

[Max aka Moscow Dragon]

>but keeping bugs just to be compatible to this walkthrough

I disagree.
The Anti-Walkthrough is a part of Ultima culture, so, IMHO this is good to preserve it.

[Stephan]

> The Anti-Walkthrough is a part of Ultima culture, so, IMHO this is good to preserve it.

Well, by that logic, Spark's ass is a part of Ultima culture and must be preserved. No, but seriously, the Anti-Walkthrough is pretty nice and good for a laugh, but I have to agree with Dominus on this.

[Dominus]

Yeah, and notice the Anti-Walkthrough is for the original Ultima7!!! This is Exult and we are free to do things different than the original.