SI and BG crash

[Jonathan]

When i play the Exult 0.96 beta 1 ver win 32 Si throw me in windows when to save before i've got my spellbook and bg crash when i go in my bedroll.

Does someone have the same prob

How can i resolve it

[Kurt]

SI is crashing so much now it's unplayable for me... not sure what's wrong. it started off that it would crash whenever i saved game other than Quick Save... so i've been using quick save. from the forest master bit onwards even quick save caused me to crash - but at least this time it would save the game THEN crash - previously it just crashed and lost my save game.
Now it's crashing every time something interesting happens on screen, for example going up or down stairs in a dungeon (when it 'teleports' you to a different part of the map, also happens when going to the icy plains), and is crashing when the wizard gets out of his coffin now too. i'm about to install the latest snapshot and will let you know later on today if it made any difference.

[wjp]

Kurt: It sounds like your savegame is seriously corrupted. This kind of corruption will cause tons of problems. Reloading an old savegame should help.

[wjp]

Jonathan: I can't reproduce the bedroll crash in BG

[Jonathan]

Maybe my computer is too fast or my frame rate is too fast too 6fps

[nadir]

speed is very unlikely to cause problems

[Jonathan]

or maybe It's the cheat. I am in god mode and/or i use the new feature to teleport me

[Kurt]

I downloaded the latest snapshot now exult won't even load, hehe...

My savegame is corrupted and I have to revert to an earlier one?
trouble is, I don't actually have an earlier one, because as I mentioned in another thread, SI crashed every time I tried to save in any slot other than the quicksave slot.
Sucks.

Possible anyone can email me a savegame at the skullcrusher entrance? *grins*
I really don't want to have to start again, hehe.

[wjp]

So you could never save throughout the entire game? Not even at the very beginning?

[Kurt]

no, not at all.
I did post that the other day. think it got no replies though

maybe my copy of SI is buggered?

[wjp]

could you zip up your entire SI "gamedat" directory and email it to me? I'd like to see if I can figure out what causes this crash.

[wjp]

oh, btw, if you're wondering, the 'gamedat' directory is where the current game is being stored. (The 'quicksave' saves to the files in this directory)

[Kurt]

I think I made a major cockup here...

I tried loading up SI using U7win, which I thought I had put into a different directory from where exult is. I started a new game.
Which of course, has now overwritten my gamedat directory, because I was stupid enough to use the same copy of SI *snarls*
that'll teach me to try to play SI at 9am.

Any other alternative?

[Kurt]

So I overwrote my quicksave?
balls.

anyway, trying to start a new game gives in stderr.txt:

Shape num out of range: shapenum
get_shape(55,1) -> NULL
NULL SHAPE!!!
Shape num out of range: shapenum
get_shape(55,1) -> NULL
NULL SHAPE!!!
Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

[wjp]

Scary. Could you try deleting your gamedat before starting a new game in exult?

[Kurt]

tried, same message.
oddly this has only happened since I installed the beta version of exult.

Also have tried reinstalling both SI and Exult (in different folder) and still get the same problem.

[wjp]

I'm kind of out of ideas here, so I'll just list some things that could possibly be causing trouble:


You didn't accidently install Jeff's mapedit demo in SI or anything?
Do you have the Silver Seed or just the original SI?
Could you be using out-of-date exult.flx/exult_si.flx files?


Also, could you post the full sdtout.txt, stderr.txt?

[Kurt]

Nope, never used it.
Silver Seed
Well I completely re-installed both SI and Exult and had the same problem, so I guess i'm up to date

when starting a new game, typed in char's name, picked portrait, hit journey onward, then I'm kicked to windows desktop.

STDOUT:
Exult V0.96beta1.
Data path = data
Audio system assembled. Audio buffer at 16384
4 Midi Devices Detected
Listing midi devices:
-1: MIDI Mapper
0: Creative S/W Synth
1: A: SB Live! MIDI Synth
2: B: SB Live! MIDI Synth
3: SB Live! MIDI Out [E400]
Using device -1: MIDI Mapper
Internal Win32 Midiout Midi Player for Exult.
Created PCB 0
Created PCB 1
Created PCB 2
Created PCB 3
Created PCB 4
Created PCB 5
Audio initialisation OK
is_installed: c:\ultima\ultima 7 - the black gate/static/endgame.dat
is_installed: c:\ultima\ultima 7 part 2 - the serpent isle/static/sispeech.spc
Audio subsystem request: Custom Music track
setting game directories to: c:\ultima\ultima 7 part 2 - the serpent isle
Starting a SERPENT ISLE game
Okay. It looks like an IFF file chunk
length looks like: 3028232
Frame count : 1
Width : 320
Height : 200
Depth : 8
Speed : 5
::0 end_consumption
::1 end_consumption
::2 end_consumption
::3 end_consumption
::4 end_consumption
::5 end_consumption
Audio subsystem request: Music track # 28
Creating 'gamedat' files.

STDERR:
Shape num out of range: shapenum
get_shape(55,1) -> NULL
NULL SHAPE!!!
Shape num out of range: shapenum
get_shape(55,1) -> NULL
NULL SHAPE!!!
Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

[wjp]

Could you try deleting your gamedat dir (again), and start another new game.
Could you then list the contents of the gamedat dir after the crash here?

[Kurt]

it doesnt even make a gamedat dir when I try to start a new game, just crashes.
and if I make a blank gamedat dir for it to use, it still crashes.

[Kurt]

okay now but stderr is just saying : Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

and nothing else

[wjp]

And the original SI (using U7run) did work properly? This is really weird...

There's hardly anything between the message in stdout.txt "Creating 'gamedat' files" and actually creating that directory.

Oh, after re-installing SI, did you setup Exult to use the new SI directory, or could it have still used the old one?

[Kurt]

odd, after deleting gamedat, the corrupted save games (from where i had previously tried to save but just crashed instead), in my first installation of SI, I loaded again and hit journey onward and it started again from the beginning - but again crashed if I used any save slot other than quicksave.

which is exactly what happened when I started playing last time, up until I got to skullcrusher, then it would just constantly crash all the time.

[wjp]

Odd. If you press journey onward from the menu and it does something, that means gamedat is still around. Are you sure you deleted the right gamedat?

Anyway, if you again have a gamedat that consistently crashes exult when saving, could you zip it up and email it to me?

[Jonathan]

Me too it send a parachute in stdout space

[wjp]

Kurt: the gamedat which you emailed me still contains data from the original SI. Also, the exult data in there was created by a version older than the beta. Are you sure you sent the correct gamedat dir?

[wjp]

Oh, I forgot to mention that it also doesn't crash for me.

[Blaze]

I have the exactly same problem. Start a new SI game and Exult just quits to my desktop. On Windows XP, BTW, if that makes any difference.

stdout:
Exult V0.96beta1.
Data path = data
Audio system assembled. Audio buffer at 16384
2 Midi Devices Detected
Listing midi devices:
-1: Microsoft MIDI Mapper
0: Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth
1: Creative Sound Blaster MPU-401
Using device -1: Microsoft MIDI Mapper
Internal Win32 Midiout Midi Player for Exult.
Created PCB 0
Created PCB 1
Created PCB 2
Created PCB 3
Created PCB 4
Created PCB 5
Audio initialisation OK
is_installed: d:\games\ultima vii - part i - black gate/static/endgame.dat
is_installed: d:\games\ultima vii - part ii - serpent isle/static/sispeech.spc
Audio subsystem request: Custom Music track
setting game directories to: d:\games\ultima vii - part ii - serpent isle
Starting a SERPENT ISLE game
Okay. It looks like an IFF file chunk
length looks like: 3028232
Frame count : 1
Width : 320
Height : 200
Depth : 8
Speed : 5
::0 end_consumption
::1 end_consumption
::2 end_consumption
::3 end_consumption
::4 end_consumption
::5 end_consumption
Audio subsystem request: Music track # 28
Creating 'gamedat' files.

stderr:
Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)

[wjp]

Blaze:

Could you try deleting your d:\games\ultima vii - part ii - serpent isle\gamedat directory, and after that starting a new SI game?

If it still crashes then, could you list the contents of that gamedat dir?

[Kurt]

hmm... will have to look at that. Not going to be home until tomorrow night now. I thought I sent the right one.

I might also try reinstalling everything again, perhaps I made a mistake last time? *looks confused*
Or perhaps some Exult files didn't install properly. I'll do everything manually next time instead

[fliptw]

try not using spaces in the directory names.

[Blaze]

> try not using spaces in the directory names.

I did and ta-da -- it worked!

Funny that BG works fine with spaces, but SI doesn't.

/me bows humbly and returns to his solitude.

[Kurt]

considering mine is installed in c:\ultima\ultima 7 part 2\
that could be why everything got buggered up.

Hopefully that'll work, I'll try it tomorrow night.
Meanwhile can anyone PLEASE send me a savegame that is anywhere between arriving in the northern snow lands and going to skullcrusher?

I will be absolutely ecstatic if I don't have to do all that again *gasps*.

[Jonathan]

well i use the directory c:\uc\serpent and it always crash. I finish the moutain of freedom and it throw me out in windows. BTW I have reinstall exult and serpent because when i press Journey onward in SI It throw me on the win 98se desktop. I try to delete my new savegame. Nothing

I will rebegin to new and send what stdout give me .wait here.

[Jonathan]

[Jonathan]

wrong can you delete it plz

I will try quicksave